Green hydrogen can decarbonize applications where renewable electrons simply can't go, but does bring with it some challenges, notably the very high pressures and low temperatures needed to contain it. To talk more about the challenges posed and opportunities presented by green hydrogen in transportation applications, Keith Larson is joined by Genny Fultz, product manager, Marc Buttler, director of application innovation, both with Emerson.
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Hello, my name is Keith Larson, publisher of Control magazine and ControlGlobal.com, and you're listening to a Solution Spotlight edition of our Control Amplified podcast sponsored this week by Emerson. To talk more about the challenges posed and opportunities presented by green hydrogen in transportation applications, I'm very pleased to have join me Genny Fultz, product manager, Marc Buttler, director of application innovation, both with Emerson.
Genny, Marc, a real pleasure to talk with you.
Marc Buttler: Thanks.
Larson: Well, to start things off, Marc, maybe you can speak a little bit to the challenges posed by green hydrogen in terms of pressures and temperatures to get a sense of scale of the issue not only for its containment on board cars and trucks, but also for its safe and accurate custody transfer from retail “gas” pumps?
Buttler: Well, sure, I'd be glad to cover that. Over the last 25 years, we've learned a lot about delivering high-pressure gas into vehicles because of all the experience we've had with compressed natural-gas-fueled vehicles, and hydrogen-fueled vehicles are very similar. It's a little bit different in that most of the vehicles that use hydrogen gas as a fuel are using it in a fuel cell instead of a combustion engine, but there are certain things that make it very similar, and that is that the dispenser, which is used to fill up the onboard fuel storage for the vehicle whenever it comes in the station, has to have the ability to measure really dynamic flow conditions that occur as the pressure equalizes between the station reservoir that's filling the car and the onboard storage tank on the car. So, this creates really dynamic conditions in terms of flow rates and pressures and temperatures. And it's even more pronounced now with hydrogen vehicles than it ever even has been with CNG because in order to get the range that the vehicles need to have between fill-ups, we have to fill them to an even higher pressure than CNG was. So, the challenges that we're so familiar with and accomplished at with compressed natural gas dispensers are even more pronounced with hydrogen, but as it turns out, we are more than able to handle it.
Larson: It's been just about two years now since Emerson introduced the MicroMotion HPC015, a compact Coriolis meter suitable for accurately measuring the flowrate of high-pressure hydrogen in dispensing applications. How has the uptake of that product been since then?
Genny Fultz: We've seen increased interest in hydrogen space for refueling and dispensing, specifically in these two areas considerably across the country and across the global value chain. In Europe especially, we've seen a considerable increase in sales. In the past year in the Asia Pacific, China's actually using our product for metrology purposes, and there's a lot of excitement here in the United States on the California coast, and hopefully the rest of the country, as these transportation chains develop across the country.
Larson: As usual, California's leading the way for the rest of the country.
Fultz: It would seem that way, yes.
Larson: Great. Well, a hydrogen leak may not represent a climate change impact, which is good I suppose, it certainly can be a safety issue. So Marc, maybe you can talk a little bit of the characteristics of Coriolis technology—and the Micro Motion HPC meter specifically. What are the characteristics that help ensure the safety and integrity of dispensing?
Buttler: Well, in addition to having the unique capability of handling the dynamic measurement challenges I mentioned just previously, the Coriolis meters are really well suited for this application for that reason as well, which is keeping the hydrogen inside the tubes where it belongs and not allowing it to escape or creating a greater risk of a leak or loss of hydrogen containment. Mainly because the Coriolis meter design is fully welded, so there's no seals or o-rings or anything like that, that really can to be broken or that need to contain the hydrogen once the hydrogen enters the meter up until the point where it exits the meter. So, that's good. And one of the other things that we learned in the process of adapting our hydrogen gas meter lines to include the HPC015 and make it ready for hydrogen dispensing was how to use this new austenitic stainless steel alloy, XM 19, which gives us the strength but keeps flexibility in order to make the flow tubes that vibrate inside the Coriolis meter sensitive enough to be able to measure the hydrogen flowing through and yet strong enough to contain the really high pressures involved.
Larson: And that particular alloy is specifically good for resisting hydrogen embrittlement?
Buttler: Yeah, that's the other part of the challenge because although there are other alloys that are also available that have the combination of strength and flexibility that we really need to be able to design a Coriolis meter for this application, the austenitic stainless steel of the XM 19 alloy is not prone to hydrogen embrittlement, like some of those other alloys would be, so it's the perfect solution for our needs.
Larson: Genny, I understand that there's a companion product suitably named HPC020, versus the 15, is now being introduced into the market. Bigger model number would seem to me to mean bigger flow rate, bigger assets, can you explain how the new meter complements and extends the features and specs of the HPC015?
Fultz: Sure, the HPC015 was designed for hydrogen gas dispensing, as you know, and Marc has given us such a good explanation of what the XM 19 austenitic stainless steel is. And with the SAE J2601-1 nominal flow rate you see at 3.6 milliliters per minute, we've seen the hydrogen market really want a complete solution for light-duty and medium-duty to heavy-duty vehicles after building dispensing stations, so that a car or a delivery truck or semi can at the same station fill up. And additionally, they want that filling time to be fast and convenient for long-haul truckers as well as for the average commuter. So, three to four minutes for a car and then closer to the disel truck fill time four or six minutes. So with that in mind, we've designed a sensor that's capable of a 9.0 kilogram per minute or a 7.7 kilogram per minute for the higher pressure rated sensor, and we call this ETO the HPC020 Coriolis. It's in two base models, the HPC020 M and HPC 20 N with the capability of going to a pressure of 16,000 psi. So, it's a considerable improvement or line extension to this HPC series, and with this larger flow option, we expect to be able to complete the needs for that dispensing market, this heavy-duty vehicle space.
Larson: I'd imagine that a higher capacity Coriolis meter would also come in handy just up supply chain as well, when it comes to filling the trucks used to distribute hydrogen to retail terminals. Is that target application for the HPC020?
Buttler: Oh most definitely. We anticipated this because whenever there's a new alternative fuel like hydrogen, or CNG in the past, there's always logistics that are involved with bringing that fuel to the customers. Sometimes that will involve filling up large tube trailers that essentially can become a traveling vehicle fueling station, so that instead of having a fixed stationary vehicle refueling facility in one place, you might be able to fill up a large hydrogen tube trailer with hydrogen and then drive it to a location where you want to have a fueling service there just temporarily, and then it might move on to another community and serve as a fueling station for that community as well. And that creates a need for a meter that can fill up that huge volume inside the tube trailer in a reasonable amount of time. Again, Coriolis technology and the MicroMotion solutions are ideally suited for that as well. It just requires a larger meter of the HPC020, which is targeting this application as well in order to be able to reduce the amount of time that it takes to fill the trucks, get on the road and be out doing what it needs to do.
Larson: Yeah, that's interesting, I haven't heard about the about going out on the road to deliver. Sounds more like the food truck concept applied to this.
Buttler: Yeah, it's certainly one solution that different countries around the world when they don't have the luxury of an installed pipeline system, it's another good alternative ways to bring it to them.
Larson: Genny, what other sorts of in-plant applications is the HPC series appropriate for, and can we expect to see other expansions of the HPC line in the future?
Fultz: HPC015 is a great high-pressure Corilois sensor for chemical injection applications. We've also seen it used in paint applications that require high pressure. We have a line extension that has the C22 nickel alloy that we feell covers those aggressive applications. But also, what we're seeing in the future is the need for higher flow rates, a higher pressure HPC sensor that can help deliver more of that high flow rate that's necessary for the hydrogen market that is rapidly accelerating within that space. And we think that a future might have opportunity to see more of these high pressure sensors, possibly for liquid hydrogen.
Larson: Yeah, it definitely seems like across all sorts of industries have been leaning towards higher pressures to get faster completion of reactions and pushing out a little more and more across all sorts of applications where a higher pressure could fit the bill.
Well, thank you both for joining me today. And to our listeners, thank so much for tuning in. Thanks once again to Emerson for sponsoring this episode. If you enjoyed it, you can subscribe to the iTunes Store or Google podcasts. Plus, you can find the full archive of past episodes on ControlGlobal.com. Signing off until next time.
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